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Spray attacks vs terrain

Post by polarloon on Tue Dec 14, 2010 10:16 am

Hi all. heres a noob question... can a spray attack firing from outside of a forest hit a target on the other side of the forest? can anyone quote from any official text?

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Re: Spray attacks vs terrain

Post by almond on Tue Dec 14, 2010 12:12 pm

Short answer: no.

References:

Pg 60:
A model under the spray template cannot be hit by the attack if the attacker's line of sight to it is completely blocked by terrain.

pg 88:
When a model outside of a forest attempts to draw a line of sight to another point of a forest, the forest blocks line of sight to anything beyond it. Thus, a model can see 3" into or out of a forest but not completely through one regardless of how thick it is.

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Re: Spray attacks vs terrain

Post by gizmoduck on Tue Dec 14, 2010 12:21 pm

And, no; a warbeast is not a terrain Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy regardless if it is made of wood and stones

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Re: Spray attacks vs terrain

Post by almond on Tue Dec 14, 2010 12:30 pm

roffles! Razz

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Re: Spray attacks vs terrain

Post by Tekanan on Tue Dec 14, 2010 1:07 pm

It should still work for a model with eyeless sight. The tricky bit is what happens if u spray a model in a forest (from outside) and the spray spills over to another model behind that Initially targeted model and outside of the forest.

If i'm not mistaken, the 2nd model will not get hit (unless the sprayer has eyeless sight). Will check when i get back home.

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Re: Spray attacks vs terrain

Post by jasechew on Tue Dec 14, 2010 1:18 pm

gizmoduck wrote:And, no; a warbeast is not a terrain Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy regardless if it is made of wood and stones

Are we referring to the same "so called Circle player" that thinks that Circle construct warbeast is terrain?

Don't worry I think he is special, I don't see anyone else will come out with things like that but I do surprise that do have ppl actually agree with him. Well In this game if its not written in the card then its in the book if its not written both then its not true. Therefore unless u cant read ,if not things like that u wont get it wrong.

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Re: Spray attacks vs terrain

Post by adiaze on Tue Dec 14, 2010 1:22 pm

jasechew wrote:
gizmoduck wrote:And, no; a warbeast is not a terrain Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy regardless if it is made of wood and stones

Are we referring to the same "so called Circle player" that thinks that Circle construct warbeast is terrain?


What the ???? Since when are constructs terrains? Must be one hell of a construct!?

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Re: Spray attacks vs terrain

Post by jasechew on Tue Dec 14, 2010 1:30 pm

adiaze wrote:
jasechew wrote:
gizmoduck wrote:And, no; a warbeast is not a terrain Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy regardless if it is made of wood and stones

Are we referring to the same "so called Circle player" that thinks that Circle construct warbeast is terrain?


What the ???? Since when are constructs terrains? Must be one hell of a construct!?

Haha apparently ur fellow circle player and his partner believes its a moving/portable terrain. even there is a big word "warbeast" written on his card. Well how awesome if it works that way.

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Re: Spray attacks vs terrain

Post by polarloon on Tue Dec 14, 2010 1:47 pm

so if i ignore forest, i can spray larh. example eyeless sight.

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Re: Spray attacks vs terrain

Post by jasechew on Tue Dec 14, 2010 1:47 pm

polarloon wrote:so if i ignore forest, i can spray larh. example eyeless sight.

Yup if u can see it u can shoot it

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Re: Spray attacks vs terrain

Post by almond on Tue Dec 14, 2010 1:56 pm

Correcto! Very Happy I love rules. There's always a way to get around it.

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Re: Spray attacks vs terrain

Post by adiaze on Tue Dec 14, 2010 2:33 pm

polarloon wrote:so if i ignore forest, i can spray larh. example eyeless sight.

Damn Legion and their eyeless sight!! Wink

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Re: Spray attacks vs terrain

Post by Gliblit on Tue Dec 14, 2010 2:34 pm

Well maybe he make terrain from wood and stone. So he think that when the construct were made by the Druids from wood and stones... It is a piece of terrain also.

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Re: Spray attacks vs terrain

Post by adiaze on Tue Dec 14, 2010 2:38 pm

By that logic, that would also mean that the Pokok caster, Cassius is a terrain. So you cannot spray the pokok caster..... Strong!!! hahahaha. such twisted logics.

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Re: Spray attacks vs terrain

Post by Tekanan on Tue Dec 14, 2010 3:16 pm

adiaze wrote:
polarloon wrote:so if i ignore forest, i can spray larh. example eyeless sight.

Damn Legion and their eyeless sight!! Wink

Correction: "the eye thing"!

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Re: Spray attacks vs terrain

Post by Gliblit on Tue Dec 14, 2010 3:32 pm

It might also meant that the Forrest terrain is part of the circle army... Hence if you are in a forest.... You get attacked by scary tree...

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Re: Spray attacks vs terrain

Post by gizmoduck on Tue Dec 14, 2010 3:59 pm

Can I use Feora to burn the forest also? Everything inside the forest take POW14 damage roll. Roll 1 or 2 for the forest fire to go our every turn.

Feora = arsonist.

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Re: Spray attacks vs terrain

Post by adiaze on Tue Dec 14, 2010 4:13 pm

gizmoduck wrote:Can I use Feora to burn the forest also? Everything inside the forest take POW14 damage roll. Roll 1 or 2 for the forest fire to go our every turn.

Feora = arsonist.

You can't man. The fire spray cannot go through terrain. Also, cannot go through the wold'warden' guarding the forest entrance because it's a terrain.

You dont want to burn the smurfs in the forest man. Feora needs to find a guy to satisfy her burning emo-rage. Razz

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Re: Spray attacks vs terrain

Post by Tekanan on Tue Dec 14, 2010 6:39 pm

gizmoduck wrote:Can I use Feora to burn the forest also? Everything inside the forest take POW14 damage roll. Roll 1 or 2 for the forest fire to go our every turn.

Feora = arsonist.

You seriously play too much Menoth...

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Re: Spray attacks vs terrain

Post by Tekanan on Tue Dec 14, 2010 7:11 pm

Tekanan wrote:The tricky bit is what happens if u spray a model in a forest (from outside) and the spray spills over to another model behind that Initially targeted model and outside of the forest.

If i'm not mistaken, the 2nd model will not get hit (unless the sprayer has eyeless sight). Will check when i get back home.

I've checked this. Seems like the 2nd model behind the initially targeted model but outside of the forest will not get hit by the spray attack unless the 'spray'er has line of sight to it (e.g. eyeless sight). Reference is as per almond's post.

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Re: Spray attacks vs terrain

Post by JINTANA on Wed Dec 15, 2010 12:42 pm

but i thought that only apply to targeting,
To my understanding, once the spray template is set, all within it well get it unless blocked by obstructing terrain.

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Re: Spray attacks vs terrain

Post by almond on Wed Dec 15, 2010 1:04 pm

JINTANA: Nope. The rulebook specifically said such models cannot be hit. Not cannot be targeted.

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Re: Spray attacks vs terrain

Post by JINTANA on Thu Dec 16, 2010 11:34 am

just checkd the book, (pg 60 primal)
*not the exact words, but the gist of it

"cant be hit if los blocked by terrain"

so i guess blocking los with other models doenst stop sprays?

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Re: Spray attacks vs terrain

Post by Tekanan on Thu Dec 16, 2010 11:42 am

Nope. That's the reason why spray can spillover to models behind another model. The exception here is los blocked by terrain.

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